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So the game developers, if you told them or posted on the Steam forums for a Proton game, would direct your issue to the right people? Of course we know the answer is that they tell you to go canada goose ask Valve, because they don support running their game on Linux. So then lets say you go to Valve. Is Valve going to give you the same level of bug fixing to resolve any issues that a specific game might have? Valve is interested in making Proton run well, no doubt about that, but that the same thing as going to the RPCS3 devs and telling them about a bug in a specific game. Then, there are my other points.
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You right that proprietary games are harder or impossible for others to support themselves but that off topic to this particular point. The point is that game developers play test Linux supported games on Linux before they release updates to stable. At least, obviously they supposed to, and if they didn do that, you have a right to give them negative reviews and submit bug reports. Obviously good developers are supposed to play test things before releasing them. However, with Proton they don do this because they aren officially supporting their game on Linux. If they did, then great, show me that Linux icon indicating support, and I have no problem with reporting about that game here on this sub! If a dev wants to use a Wine wrap, as long as it a bug free good game with good support, in my opinion there nothing to complain about as it all under the hood stuff and as long as it runs and runs well, no problem.
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D. If the game is whitelisted, I post reviews, good or bad, canada goose deals if they don like it, don get it whitelisted. It seems you are talking about pure Proton and not whitelisting.
buy canada goose jacket What in the world? Valve whitelists games. Game developers do not whitelist games. Valve also doesn play test the game all the way through, either, they just verify it starts up etc, so Valve whitelisting is no where near as good as actual Linux support from the game developers, but even if it was, my other points would still stand. You absolutely cannot post negative reviews about games that have bugs caused by Proton, even if they are whitelisted, because the developers are literally not responsible for Proton bugs, at all. buy canada goose jacket
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canada goose Valve is acting as the official porter. If you have a problem with the Linux version of a Feral game, they will direct you to Feral. If you have a problem with a Proton game, they will direct you to Valve. It makes literally no difference from a functional standpoint. canada goose
cheap Canada Goose Except one is directing you out of spite to a black hole, and the other is directing you to the officially supported entry point. You are warned about using Proton, and canada goose outlet Valve cheap Canada Goose is not on standby for the direct support of Linux gaming for specific titles like Feral is. You would not have the right to post a canada goose black friday sale negative game review just because a Windows game failed to run in Wine/Proton because it not official Linux support and I dare say you already know that already because it hard not to know it, but maybe you don already made my other points to respond about what the scope of /r/linux_gaming should be and why posting about every PS3 or Windows game here just because it runs on Linux is out of scope. cheap Canada Goose
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As far as Feral goes, while I agree that the developer that made it should be offering support instead, at least they are offering direct support for running a specific game on Linux, and you have all the same rights you do under any other game on Steam. Valve took a position like Feral has Canada Goose Jackets for providing complete top notch game support under Linux, then sure we could consider the games as having official support and could show a Linux icon for all canada goose coats of the ones that had that. But that not currently the way things are. Valve warns you, even, about Proton titles. I don remember the exact verbiage, but that definitely far removed from being a 1st buy canada goose jacket cheap class gamer if you can just turn support on or off for a game at will, lol. Once Valve imbues various games with official Linux support, as long as it real support like you get with any other Linux title, then sure we canada goose clearance can consider that in scope to games for our platform.
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